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Ep 31  |  Daniel Schmachtenberger

Daniel Schmachtenberger: “Bend not Break #3: Sensemaking, Uncertainty, and Purpose”

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On this episode we meet with founding member of The Consilience Project, Daniel Schmachtenberger.

In Part 3 of their series, Schmachtenberger and Hagens explore metanarratives. Why are they threatening to various sections of society?

Further, Schmachtenberger helps us understand how we can take in the systemic meta-crisis facing humanity in ways that grant us agency, rather than despair.

About Daniel Schmachtenberger

Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. 

The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal.

Towards these ends, he’s had particular interest in the topics of catastrophic and existential risk, civilization and institutional decay and collapse as well as progress, collective action problems, social organization theories, and the relevant domains in philosophy and science.

In French, we have a motto that says that a simple drawing is often better than a long explanation. Jean-Marc Jancovici Carbone 4 President

That’s very understandable because with left atmosphere thinking, one of the problems is that you see everything as a series of problems that must have solutions. Iain McGilchrist Neuroscientist and Philosopher

We can’t have hundreds and hundreds of real relationships that are healthy because that requires time and effort and full attention and awareness of being in real relationship and conversation with the other human. Nate Hagens Director of ISEOF

This is the crux of the whole problem. Individual parts of nature are more valuable than the biocomplexity of nature. Thomas Crowther Founder Restor

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00:40 – Daniel Schmachtenberger info + TGS episodes part 1 and part 2

06:30 – Overview of Nate’s story: Animated videos, Economics for the Future – Beyond the Superorganism

11:17Evolutionary Psychology

11:43How psychology varies across cultures 

12:01Varying levels of violence, value of education across cultures

13:04Dumb American geography videos

14:30 How algorithms keep people on social media sites

15:20Humans prefer certainty, uncertainty is difficult

16:08 One Marshmallow/Two Marshmallow experiment

17:01 Supernormal stimuli

17:50 People dying of obesity are also dying of nutrient deficiency

21:45 Sensemaking

24:31Chinese model of government

26:07Reductionism

27:12Iatrogenic

27:35Chronic diseases require understanding the body’s system

30:45Orangutans, Indonesia and paper bags

33:20 Consensus Bias

33:30 Environmental degradation on indigenous lands and communities

35:27David Bohm and J. Krishnamurti

37:15 Delusion of Consciousness

40:20 Vedic Bhagavad Gita chapter 2 verse 48

43:38 Psychedelics and non-ordinary states of consciousness

44:28 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy – Catastrophizing

49:02Doomerism

50:15Sometimes ‘cheering up’ makes people feel worse

55:01 Decentralized technology, tabletop CRISPR

55:39 Bucky Fuller – egg analogy

58:25 Discrete Phase Shifts

59:27Trolley Problem

1:02:30CAFOs

1:03:38 Diet For a New America

1:06:51Marc Gafni

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