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Ep 7  |  Josh Farley

Josh Farley: “The Past, Present, and Future of Human Cooperation”

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On this episode we meet with ecological economist and Professor in Community Development & Applied Economics and Public Administration, Josh Farley. 

Farley explores the importance of human cooperation in a modern superstructure that incentivizes competition. What role will cooperation play in helping us solve our largest existential problems?

Farley explains the critical social dilemma humans face: How can we grapple with the paradox that individuals are better served to act selfishly, but cooperation among individuals makes everyone better off?

Additionally, Professor Farley helps us distinguish the difference between how a system works, and how we can understand and participate in changing a system.

In French, we have a motto that says that a simple drawing is often better than a long explanation. Jean-Marc Jancovici Carbone 4 President

That’s very understandable because with left atmosphere thinking, one of the problems is that you see everything as a series of problems that must have solutions. Iain McGilchrist Neuroscientist and Philosopher

We can’t have hundreds and hundreds of real relationships that are healthy because that requires time and effort and full attention and awareness of being in real relationship and conversation with the other human. Nate Hagens Director of ISEOF

This is the crux of the whole problem. Individual parts of nature are more valuable than the biocomplexity of nature. Thomas Crowther Founder Restor

Show Notes & Links to Learn More

00:30 – Josh Farley bio + works

02:07 – Ecological economics

03:12 – Herman Daly

03:29 – Economics for the Future – Beyond the Superorganism

03:52 – Exponential growth is impossible on a finite planet

06:33 – We are born with prepared learning

07:05 – Homoeconomicus

07:50 – Studying economics changes attitudes

09:55 – Human problem solving is very plastic and malleable

10:27 – Large scale cooperation

11:05 – Inuit tribe and the compound bow

11:37 – ‘Just in time’ complex supply chain

12:49 – There isn’t an individual human that can survive outside culture

13:05 – Our systems are built on complexity and energy surplus

13:40 – Cooperation and competition work in tandem

14:36 – There’s no capitalist society without fossil carbon

15:50 – No industry would be profitable by including the externalities of fossil carbons

18:50 – CO2 impact of reducing speed limits

20:15 – Collective knowledge in evolution

20:54 – Variation of cooperation in human cultures

21:43 – Multi-level selection

22:06 – Darwin and collaborative vs selfish groups

24:17 – Jared Diamond – The World Until Yesterday

27:27 – Competition with another group unites in-groups tighter

27:48 – We are cooperating towards profits

28:22 – Ukraine and Russia current events

29:29 – The more extreme the shared belief, the tighter the group is

32:20 – Vaccine book chapter from 2015

33:00 – Open knowledge commons versus privatized gain in a fractured information ecology: lessons from COVID-19 for the future of sustainability.

33:22 – Even with alternative energy, our cultural goal for growth is a problem

34:40 – Keynes – We’re so rich we will only need to work 10 hours/week

35:18 – There are no technological solutions to a collective action problem

39:03 – Highly egalitarian ancestors

39:57 – Mariana Mazzucato iPhone example

42:47 – Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi 

44:02 – Human interaction is a predictor of satisfaction

44:45 – How Are We

46:21 – Slime mold networks

48:33 – Percentage of GDP spent on marketing

50:10 – Social media use of polarization and algorithms for consumerism

51:35 – Knowledge commons

53:40 – The original goal of public universities

55:46 – Optimal Foraging Theory

55:27 – Steep discount rates

59:31 – The U.S. is the richest culture in the world and miserable

1:02:16 – Social media experiments

1:06:18 – Obligations of reciprocities

1:08:09 – Nassim Taleb Antifragile

1:09:57 – The market system dilutes reciprocity

1:11:08 – Supernormal stimuli

1:12:19 – Stern Review: 1% of GDP

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