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Ep 37  |  Martin Scheringer

Martin Scheringer: “The Growing Threat from Chemical Pollution”

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Martin Scheringer The Great Simplification

On this episode, Professor of environmental chemistry Martin Scheringer joins Nate. Together, they discuss Scheringer’s most recent paper on PFAS – the ‘forever chemicals, their ubiquity in waterways all over the globe, and their numerous critical health effects.

More broadly, they outline the risks and scenarios of plastic pollution to planetary futures – and what we might do about it. Is it possible to live in a (mostly) plastic free world, and do we really have any other option?

About Martin Scheringer

Martin Scheringer is a professor of environmental chemistry at Masaryk University, Brno, Czech Republic, and works in the research program on Environmental Chemistry and Modeling at RECETOX. He holds a diploma in chemistry from the Johannes-Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany, and a doctoral degree and a habilitation from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) in Zürich, Switzerland.

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Show Notes & Links to Learn More

00:37 – Martin’s works + info

01:03PFAS

02:14 Outside the Safe Operating Space of a New Planetary Boundary for Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS) – Martin’s newest paper

03:07 Plastic outweighs all animals on earth

03:19 Micro plastics

04:13Health advisory levels for PFAS

04:52PFAS Chemicals move with the water and outgas

05:16All the products PFAS are used for + more 

06:16Plastic containers last 700-800 years, and then once degraded last longer

06:34PFAS never degrade into anything and will never go away

08:30 There are 5,000 chemicals of that type, and up to 300,000 chemicals on the market globally all with different properties and unknown health effects

11:01 – ‘The solution to pollution is dilution

11:08The Graduate

12:45Chemical Health Advisories by the EPA

12:58 These chemicals can lower immune response in babies

13:17 Chemicals can lower sperm counts in men

13:49Health effects of PFAS

14:29Dupont teflon production facility releasing PFAS waste water into open waters

15:42Dark Waters

16:09Endocrine disrupting chemicals

17:45 Increase in non-communicable diseases over the last 15-20 years

18:03Increasing climate effects shown

19:22 Endocrine disruptors on non-humans

19:59The challenge of communicating science

20:45 Metabolic diseases potentially having origins from chemicals

23:00Steep discount rates

24:06Packaged food contains lots of these chemicals

24:10Food Packaging Forum

24:54We create 300 million tons of plastic each year, and half of that is single use plastic

25:35The chemicals added into plastics

25:53PVC, phthalates

27:22All the products that come from a barrel of oil

28:37 Art Berman + TGS Episode

29:09 Plastic takes ~12% of oil production

30:32Negatives of plastic alternatives

33:11500 billion fossil workers added per year

33:35How did people used to live without plastic products?

34:29 Making glass thinner and lighter

34:55 Our supply chains are going to have to localize and regionalize

35:45Nate’s story on The Great Simplification

36:29 Potential of small scale farms feeding everyone in the world

36:40The centrality of fertilizers and pesticides

37:50 Petrochemicals in pharmaceuticals

39:54RoundUp controversyPatrick Moore willing to drink it and then refusing to

41:05 PCBs

41:18PCB damage to whales, Orca found dead on beach with high level of PCBs

42:08Mercury Biomagnification in fish

43:06Average golden retriever in 1950s lived to 15 years old

43:35Prevalence of cancer currently

44:50List of diseases connected to PFOA

46:30Persistent chemicals

47:37Environmental Justice and chemical pollutants

48:46Persistence and Spatial range

49:25Ocean acidification

49:45Chemical stressor effects on animal populations and recent study: Impacts of endocrine disrupting chemicals on reproduction in wildlife and humans

50:18Insect down by 50-70% in mass

51:28 Higher temperatures cause chemicals to outgas more easily

51:51There is very minimal testing of chemicals before they are released as products

56:45The New Car smell is phthalate, flame retardants, EDCs…

58:20Standing stock in the US grows at 2.5-2.8%/year

1:01:27IPCC, IPCC biodiversity, IPCC for chemicals

1:09:06 Fridays for Future

1:11:55Destruction of the Amazon

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