Earlier this week there was a livestream debate highlighting the key points of the Green Growth and DeGrowth perspectives – this week’s Frankly adds a third perspective to the ‘growth critical’ conversation – that modern society has a metabolism and momentum and will grow – in non-green ways – until we can’t. This is a critical third category that should be included in these discussions, despite its ‘tougher sell’.
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Download transcript01:11 – Degrowth/Green Growth Debate
03:45 – GDP is a poor measure for human prosperity
04:06 – Environmental problems wane in priority when the economy is poor
04:48 – Income is the single largest variable the correlates with emissions
06:12 – No gains in efficiency or technology has reduced energy consumption
06:25 – At 2.5% growth, we will grow 10x in a century, 100x in 2 centuries, and 1000x in 3 centuries
07:40 – We are doubling debt every 8.5 years, and doubling GDP every 25 years
09:35 – Climate is just one piece of a multivariate issue
11:07 – The Global North depends on the resources of the Global South
11:25 – There are over 4 million children in the UK living in poverty
12:15 – The price of lithium is up 900% since its scaling
13:18 – Adding renewables is contributing to emissions currently, not reducing them
14:21 – Germany upping coal imports and moving to wood
15:10 – The 1% spend [correction: 17%] of their income, while the bottom 40% spend 105%
17:04 – Klieber’s law and correlation with global energy use/economy
18:42 – Herman Daly Steady State
18:48 – Post-growth movement
