Great simplification pulsing lines

Ep 59  |  Jonathan Haidt

Jonathan Haidt: “Social Psychology in an Age of Social Fragmentation”

Check out this podcast

Jon Haidt The Great Simplification

Show Summary

Today, Nate is joined by social psychologist Jonathan Haidt. Professor Haidt is one of the leaders in the understanding of human biases and predispositions, and how they affect cooperation, communication, and change-making. Human psychology and behavior is at the root of the larger predicament that humanity faces. Is it possible to use a better understanding of our own psychology to change our behavior and the behavior of future generations? Is social media hijacking the vulnerabilities of our social-psychological nature? How can we redesign systems technologies and systems to bring out the better sides of our natures, instead of amplifying the worst?

About Jonathan Haidt

Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist at New York University’s Stern School of Business. He received his Ph.D. from the University of Pennsylvania in 1992. Haidt’s research examines the intuitive foundations of morality, and how morality varies across cultural and political divisions. Haidt is the author of The Happiness Hypothesis (2006) and of The New York Times bestsellers The Righteous Mind (2012) and The Coddling of the American Mind (2018, with Greg Lukianoff). In 2019 he was inducted into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Since 2018 he has been studying the contributions of social media to the decline of teen mental health and the rise of political dysfunction. He is currently writing two books: Kids In Space: Why teen mental health is collapsing, and Life After Babel: Adapting to a world we can no longer share.

In French, we have a motto that says that a simple drawing is often better than a long explanation. Jean-Marc Jancovici Carbone 4 President

That’s very understandable because with left atmosphere thinking, one of the problems is that you see everything as a series of problems that must have solutions. Iain McGilchrist Neuroscientist and Philosopher

We can’t have hundreds and hundreds of real relationships that are healthy because that requires time and effort and full attention and awareness of being in real relationship and conversation with the other human. Nate Hagens Director of ISEOF

This is the crux of the whole problem. Individual parts of nature are more valuable than the biocomplexity of nature. Thomas Crowther Founder Restor

Show Notes & Links to Learn More

Download transcript

00:20 – Jonathan Haidt Works, Info, Books

01:07 Robert Sapolsky, E.O. Wilson

02:10David Sloan Wilson + TGS Podcast

03:25The Happiness Hypothesis

03:39The Ancients

03:45Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

03:50Hamlet scene

05:22 Limbic System and Neo-cortex

07:02 The Hobbit, Ishmael

07:10 The Righteous Mind

07:28Moral PsychologyCognitive Development (Lawrence Colberg)

07:50Richard Shweder

08:02 Alan Fiske

08:30 Most social scientists are left leaning

09:07National Review, Thomas Sowell, Friedrich Hayek

09:36John Staurt Mill

11:23Group Selection

12:10The Coddling of the American Mind

14:53Millennials, Gen Z

15:10 Gen Z twice the rate of mental illness than millennials

15:43How Trigger Warnings Are Hurting Mental Health on Campus – The Atlantic

16:05 Life After BabelWhy the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid – The Atlantic

18:02 Don Peck, Jeff Goldberg

19:45Huge spikes in mental health rates between 2012 and 2013especially for girls (Haidt’s Work)

20:48Kids in Space: Why Teen Mental Health is Collapsing

22:14Jonathanhaidt.com/socialmedia 

23:20PISA Study

24:45 Timeline of social media development, teen adoption curve

28:29 Hamline University Incident

29:18 – Schools that have banned Mark Twain, To Kill a Mockingbird

30:46Rewilding

31:10Nature is inherently unequal

31:58Jean Jacques Rousseau – idea that humans are malleable

32:27Daniel Schmachtenberger + TGS Series

33:58Ibn Khaldun

38:31 Odes from Ovid

40:13 Francis Haugen Whistleblower

40:13Mark Zuckerberg has complete control over Facebook

40:49Tristan Harris + TGS Episode

42:15Consilience E.O. Wilson

44:51Ilya Prigogine

45:30Postmodernism

48:031984 (Newspeak)

48:48Social Media Amplifies the loudest in the room

50:20Call-out/cancel culture

54:08 More extreme candidates from the two parties being elected

55:48Representatives disincentivized from cooperating with the other side

57:15Anonymity with identity-authentication techniques

58:45Social Media Structural reforms that aren’t content monitoring

59:49Gen-Alpha

1:01:30Collective Action Problem

1:06:52Both-Sidesism

1:08:49Dynamism and Decency

1:09:10Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher

1:11:13Sociocentric vs individualistic societies

1:11:30Joseph HenrichThe WEIRDest People in the World

1:12:35 – Sosis – 19th Century Intentional Communities, those with lots of sacrifice lasted longer

1:15:12Evernote

1:16:30Steven Pinker

1:17:32Joseph CampbellHero’s Journey

Back to episodes
If Anyone Builds It, Everyone DiesWith Nate SoaresThe Great SimplificationEp 203 | Nate Soares

Technological development has always been a double-edged sword for humanity: the printing press increased the spread of misinformation, cars disrupted the fabric of our cities, and social media has made us increasingly polarized and lonely. But it has not been since the invention of the nuclear bomb that technology has presented such a severe existential risk to humanity – until now, with the possibility of Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) on the horizon. Were ASI to come to fruition, it would be so powerful that it would outcompete human beings in everything – from scientific discovery to strategic warfare. What might happen to our species if we reach this point of singularity, and how can we steer away from the worst outcomes?

Watch nowDec 3, 2025
Reimagining Ourselves at the End of the WorldWith Samantha SweetwaterThe Great SimplificationEp 202 | Samantha Sweetwater

Over the past decade, the world has become increasingly chaotic and uncertain – and so, too, has our cultural vision for the future. While the events we face now may feel unprecedented, they are rooted in much deeper patterns, which humanity has been playing out for millennia. If we take the time to understand past trends, we can also employ practices and philosophies that might counteract them –  such as focusing on kinship, intimacy, and resilience – to help pave the way for a better future. How might we nurture the foundations of a different kind of society, even while the end of our current civilization plays out around us?

Watch nowNov 24, 2025
Two Ways of KnowingWith Rosa Vásquez EspinozaThe Great SimplificationEp 201 | Rosa Vásquez Espinoza

For centuries, modern science has relied on the scientific method to better understand the world around us. While helpful in many contexts, the scientific method is also objective, controlled, and reductionist – often breaking down complex systems into smaller parts for analysis and isolating subjects to test hypotheses. In contrast, indigenous wisdom is deeply contextual, rooted in lived experience, and emphasizes a reciprocal, integrated relationship with the rest of the natural world, viewing all parts of the system as interconnected. What becomes possible when we combine the strengths of each of these knowledge systems as we navigate humanity’s biggest challenges? 

Watch nowNov 19, 2025

Subscribe to our Substack

The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future (ISEOF) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation, founded in 2008, that conducts research and educates the public about energy issues and their impact on society.

Support our work
Get in touch
x