No Economies Without Biodiversity

Ep 177  |  Thomas Crowther

Thomas Crowther — No Economies Without Biodiversity: Why Our Markets Rely on the Complexity of Nature

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There is only one known planet in the universe capable of meeting humanity’s needs – Earth.  And yet, our understanding and appreciation of the underlying complexity that makes it function remains limited. If we were able to grasp the transformative potential of biodiversity – specifically how it relates to biocomplexity – how might we change our behavior?

In this episode, Nate is joined by ecologist Thomas Crowther to discuss the critical importance of biodiversity as an intricate web of life that supports all other living beings, not just through the sheer number of species, but because of the complexity of interactions within ecosystems. Thomas highlights the power of data in empowering individuals to make informed choices that positively impact nature, and the critical need to address inequality in order to foster ecological recovery.  

Could the power of data and knowledge catalyze humanity into valuing biodiversity for the sake of preserving ecological stability? How do local communities and initiatives play a key role in revitalizing productive ecosystems, and how can we change our patterns of consumption to better support them? And perhaps most importantly, if we come to understand the critical interconnectedness of the biosphere, might we finally rediscover our place within it, as one species among millions fostering life on this Blue-Green Earth?

About Thomas Crowther

Thomas Crowther is an ecologist studying the connections between biodiversity and climate change. He is chair of the advisory council for the United Nations Decade on Ecosystem Restoration, as well as the founder of Restor: an online, open-data platform for the global restoration movement. He was also a professor in the Department of Environmental Systems Science at ETH Zurich, where he started Crowther Lab, an interdisciplinary group of scientists exploring how global-scale ecological systems interact to regulate the climate. In 2021, the World Economic Forum named Thomas a Young Global Leader for his work on the protection and restoration of biodiversity.

In French, we have a motto that says that a simple drawing is often better than a long explanation. Jean-Marc Jancovici Carbone 4 President

That’s very understandable because with left atmosphere thinking, one of the problems is that you see everything as a series of problems that must have solutions. Iain McGilchrist Neuroscientist and Philosopher

We can’t have hundreds and hundreds of real relationships that are healthy because that requires time and effort and full attention and awareness of being in real relationship and conversation with the other human. Nate Hagens Director of ISEOF

This is the crux of the whole problem. Individual parts of nature are more valuable than the biocomplexity of nature. Thomas Crowther Founder Restor

Show Notes & Links to Learn More

00:00 – Thomas Crowther

02:48 – Biodiversity, Food Webs (Web of Life)

03:31 – David Attenborough, Attenborough’s filmography

03:33 – Mycorrhizal fungi facilitating plant life, Whales and Remora fish

03:46 – The importance of Antagonistic relationships in ecology, Grey wolf and White-tailed deer relationship, Canada lynx and Snowshoe hares

04:33 – Stress Gradient Hypothesis

04:53 – Tree of Life, Ecological Feedback Loops

05:08 – Great Oxidation Event

05:23 – Relationship between biodiversity, competition, and stability

05:33 – Fungi species competition study

06:08 – Intransitive dynamics in Ecology

06:43 – Nate’s fossil: Stromatolites fossilized in iron

08:23 – Deforestation and Biodiversity Loss

09:01 – David Sloan Wilson (TGS Episode) & E.O. Wilson paper on Selfishness and Altruism

09:50 – The Selfish Gene

10:34 – Mutualism vs. Symbiosis

11:43 – Lotka–Volterra equations, Quantitative Ecology

12:38 – Biodiversity Hotspots

13:33 – The global economy is at risk because of biodiversity loss

13:45 – Sustainable Development Goals, Planetary Boundaries

14:04 – Climate Change

15:14 – Nate’s Reality 101 course, Ants and plant species relationship video

15:56 – Ecological Tipping Point, Domino Effect, Monoculture

16:28 – Biological Redundancy

17:23 – Overfishing, Coral Bleaching

17:36 – Eloy Manuel Castellanos Verdugo  – Ecosystem Resilience

18:01 – Human activity is significantly changing ecosystems

19:18 – Wide Boundary thinking, Using a Wide Boundary Lens

19:35 – Spain: Monocultures of Eucalyptus trees

21:20 – Forest systems store a significant amount of carbon

22:20 – Tree Census study

24:16 – Agricultural Revolution

24:38 – Tree Species study

24:50 – Global Tree Restoration study

29:00 – Greenwashing

32:05 – Trump’s one trillion trees Executive Order

33:08 – Tree planting threatening native grasslands

33:25 – Nature is becoming a higher priority in climate negotiations

33:53 – United Nations Decade on Ecosystems Restoration

34:31 – Project SEED Biocomplexity SEED Index

35:10 – Biocomplexity

37:28 – Wealth Inequality, Economic Inequality Visualizations

38:10 – Tree populations are still declining BUT rate of deforestation is decreasing and rate of restoration is increasing

39:13 – RESTOR

44:23 – Desta’s Coffee

47:54 – Higher profits when Nature is in tact

48:26 – Payment for Ecosystem Service (PES) Government Program in Costa Rica

49:28 – Soundscape restoration in Costa Rica as a result of PES

50:13 – Economic impact of ecological restoration

51:28 – Kuznets Curve, Criticisms of the model

51:48 – Inequality as a driver of environmental degradation (and greed)

52:56 – The Bottlenecks of the 21st Century by Nate Hagens and DJ White

53:13 – Carrying Capacity

53:53 – Fish populations could recover in a decade

54:30 – Chernobyl ecosystem regeneration

55:03 – Argentina reintroduction of jaguar, Yellowstone reintroduction of wolves

56:08 – Farmer Mediated Natural Regeneration (FMNR) Movement

56:22 – Desertification, Soil degradation in Africa

57:23 – We are on the verge of a 6th Mass Extinction

1:00:33 – Wildcrafting, Bushcraft

1:01:23 – Friction fire

1:08:18 – Debt relief, Cash transfer programs, Payment for ecosystems services, UBI

1:09:34 – EU Nature Restoration Regulation, Farmers’ Protest, Biodiversity matters in agriculture

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