#120 | Frankly
The Creature in the Machine
Description
In this week’s episode, Nate reflects on his experience with knee surgery and being a “creature in the machine” (the Superorganism). He touches on the often-forgotten nature of our physical existence in a world dominated by cognitive labor and abstractions, exploring the tension between gratitude for the gains of modern medicine and knowledge of the hidden energetic cost of these technologies.
Alongside these personal reflections, Nate unpacks his thoughts on some current political events and considers timely questions of power, legitimacy, and social fragmentation in a post-peak carbon world. He adds insights from the two books he’s read during recovery, putting Tolkien’s Fellowship of the Ring in conversation with Kingsnorth’s Against the Machine in order to highlight the growing contrast of our humanity against the larger power-oriented system. Running through the episode is an invitation to remain human, embodied, and relational even while benefiting from, critiquing, and resisting the forces that seek to turn life into components.
What does it mean to remain as a biological “creature” while living inside vast, and increasingly abstract, technological and economic systems? Where does gratitude for modern capabilities come into balance with responsibility for their costs? Finally, what practices might help preserve human meaning, agency, and connection in an increasingly mechanized world?
In French, we have a motto that says that a simple drawing is often better than a long explanation. Jean-Marc Jancovici Carbone 4 President
That’s very understandable because with left atmosphere thinking, one of the problems is that you see everything as a series of problems that must have solutions. Iain McGilchrist Neuroscientist and Philosopher
We can’t have hundreds and hundreds of real relationships that are healthy because that requires time and effort and full attention and awareness of being in real relationship and conversation with the other human. Nate Hagens Director of ISEOF
This is the crux of the whole problem. Individual parts of nature are more valuable than the biocomplexity of nature. Thomas Crowther Founder Restor
Show Notes & Links to Learn More
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00:07 – Knee replacement surgery
00:13 – Cyborg
02:30 – J.R.R. Tolkien
02:34 – Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Rings
02:52 – Paul Kingsnorth, Against the Machine
03:12 – The Dark Mountain Project
03:56 – Frankly #97 Why the World Feels Like It’s Falling Apart: The Superorganism Explained in 7 Minutes
04:07 – Wendell Berry
04:22 – Iain McGilchrist, TGS Episode 95 and TGS Episode 165 with Iain McGilchrist
04:26 – The left brain
04:53 – Lewis Mumford
05:18 – Elijah Wood, Viggo Mortensen, Liv Tyler, Cast of LOTR Peter Jackson films
05:55 – Hobbit(ness)
06:22 – AI and electricity for power
07:00 – Star Trek USS Enterprise
10:33 – I.C.E. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), Deployment in Minneapolis
12:35 – Post-peak carbon
12:48 – Bioregionalism, TGS Episode 139 with Daniel Christian Wahl
13:17 – TGS Franklys
14:08 – Venezuela, World Economic Forum, Davos, Greenland
15:57 – Benefits of lifting weights (strength training)
16:38 – Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man
17:90 – Frodo Baggins, Gandalf
18:03 – Jekyll and Hyde (The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde)
18:20 – Shortfall risk
19:22 – The Shire
